MOSESCATS ORIGINALLY WROTE:

I WROTE THE FOLLOWING AS A POINT FOR THE SITE CREATOR TO PONDER AFTER HAVING READ A LITTLE ON THE SITE,

NOW I REALIZE WHAT I SAW WAS CORRECT IN RETROSPECT – AT LEAST DON GOT THE JEST OF IT !

Just before John sees Jesus coming in vision (re Rev.14:14) he identifies the last day people; their character, their work, their connection to Jesus.

It's clear then; find that people on earth, who look this way, and you've found Gods true church (last day saints - same as the 1st established by the lamb Rev.12:) "defined" by Him, not me or you. (ref. Rev. 14:12,12:17,19:10,22:14)

The reason people can't see and recognize them today is; Described by God through His prophet Isaiah in Isaiah8:20.

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These are the verses that you set forth as proof for whatever it is you are trying to prove.  It seems that you are trying to set forth how to recognize Christians/end-time Christians; so to this, I will address my comments.

Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Rev. 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Rev. 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Rev. 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Rev. 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

I’ve tried to decipher what these verses have in common. Apparently, you feel that the Lord’s people will be recognized because they obey the Lord’s commandments. This presents a lot of problems to anyone trying to understand your how you would recognize a believer. In fact, it presents as many problems as there are divisions in the body of Christ—and some might even argue that it presents as many problems as there are individuals.

To me, the reason people cannot recognize Christians today is that they do not perceive Who Jesus was and What He was about when He came to earth as a suffering Messiah. Let me respond to you by first looking at a couple more verses that are in the same passage of your last quote.

Isaiah 8:
14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken…

20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

The Scriptures above point forward to the time when Christ would have to come and restore God’s original teachings put forth to His people from Genesis to Malachi. The religious leaders throughout the ages had added so many do’s and don’t’s to the simplicity of God’s commandments that it was impossible for anyone to attain their man-made list. When Christ paid the price for sin on the Cross, God wiped that slate clean, took His Hand and ripped the veil of the temple just as you and I would rip up an offending note/letter, and proceeded to write His truth again through the New Testament writers.

Mt. 27:51
And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

Mark 15:38
And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.

Luke 23:44-46
And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

In Biblical times the earthly kings had a seal, a ring, or a coat of arms that would identify their proclamations as real and binding upon the people. God’s seal, real and binding, was the Blood of His Only Begotten Son which would be placed on the hearts of people that believed on the name of His Only Begotten Son. This seal of/from God was taken totally and completely out of the hands of the church leaders. Instead, the seal was placed in the hands of the Holy Spirit, Who now places the atonement seal which is the blood of Christ on the heart of each person who exercises the "faith" as required by the new covenant. This faith is then enhanced by the gifts of the Spirit. Now, since this "faith" is both a "gift of Spirit" and the "fruit of the Spirit," (i.e., given by the Holy Spirit) then any works done by the believer are either accomplished through the "gift of Faith" or the "fruit of Faith." Consequently, all the glory returns to the Father because of Christ’s finished work on the Cross.

The shedding of Christ’s blood for a sacrificial atonement was not a new concept. It had always been so in the Old Testament and was brought forth and made perfect in the New Testament. Consider the following Scriptures.

2Ki 10:30
And the LORD said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing [that which is] right in mine eyes, [and] hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that [was] in mine heart, thy children of the fourth [generation] shall sit on the throne of Israel.

The emphasis was always to do the commandments of the Father, in that particular situation, which would bring the true King honor. Now, because of the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross, all glory and honor would remain under the auspices of the Trinity. One might ask, what do we get out of all of this? Well, let’s hear what the Scriptures have to say.

Mat 25:21
His lord said unto him, Well done, [thou] good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.

Mat 25:23
His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.

If the writer of Isaiah had his neighbors in for dinner or for a discussion of the Scriptures, this is what he would share or give as an exhortation. He would say, "The direction you are now going is coming to naught and will produce great darkness of mind and heart. My family and I are not going to follow the religious dogmas of today!" He would further exhort that they were being led into spiritual darkness. Read as follows:

Isaiah 8:19-22
And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

And they shall pass through it, hardly bestead and hungry: and it shall come to pass, that when they shall be hungry, they shall fret themselves, and curse their king and their God, and look upward.

And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness, dimness of anguish; and [they shall be] driven to darkness.

It was here that we began to see a searching for "the light" that had always permeated the Biblical writings. These writings continued to grow stronger with each succeeding prophet, even to the actual time/place where this "longed for Hope/Light" would emerge upon the world scene.

Mt. 2:
4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.

5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,

6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

Micah 5:
2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, [though] thou be little among the thousands of Judah, [yet] out of thee shall he come forth unto me [that is] to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth [have been] from of old, from everlasting.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Now, we need to refer back to this stumbling block mentioned in Isaiah 8:14. We find this carried forward in the New Testament where it clearly states Christ purpose in dying on the cross.

called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:

I Pet. 2:24-25
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

For ye were as sheep going I Pet. 2:6-9
Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Unto you therefore which believe [he is] precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, [even to them] which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

I said all this to say, obviously, the religious leaders and the followers in the Old Testament had gotten far, far away from the precepts of God. We know what the true and the false followers looked like from the Scriptures of the Old Testament. We know what a New Testament Christian is to look like because true believers were brought into the kingdom through a better covenant, i.e., through faith in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. They are not to be an "imitation" of Christ, for that was what Satan tried to be. This Scripture tells us what we are to "look" like in the Kingdom of God. Jesus was our example and we need to follow His precepts. He said, " I listen and do what the Father tells me to do" He did not imitate God!

John 12:49-50
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

John 14:13
And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

John 16:23
And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give [it] you.

Mat 10:19
But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

Mark 13:11
But when they shall lead [you], and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

These are the keys to what a New Testament Christian should look like. His or her life must be energized by the Holy Spirit, using the "gift of Faith" and the "fruit of Faith. These are what the world needs to see and these are the works that will stand the test of fire talked about in the Scriptures.

I Cor. 3:13
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

I Cor. 3:15
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Since the gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit are given to the believers so that the world can recognize them, let’s examine them. Let’s look at the gifts of the Spirit first:

5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord. I Corinthians 12:
1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

 

6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

Now we will look at the fruit of the Spirit as taught by the Scriptures:

Galatians 5:

1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?

8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.

9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

11 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.

12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you.

13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

You included Scriptures from Revelation that speak of commandments; however, we need to keep in mind that the Book of Revelation deals with believers of all ages as well as those individuals that will go through Daniel’s 70^th Week of end-time. (For our understanding of Daniel’s 70^th Week, go to our on-line book, THE CLOCK OF THE AGES and check out booklet one.) The Book of Revelation deals with God’s commandments, but the book and its commandments must be rightly/spiritually divided to make sense. Let’s look at some of those commandments.

Rev 22:13-16
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.

His commandments spoken of here are not the Ten Commandments, which were to be the basis of a Theocratic Government—which men rejected; but rather His Commandments for the believers of all the ages. And at the foundation of His commandments for all the ages were these basic concepts.

Mark 12:30-31
…thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this [is] the first commandment.

And the second [is] like, [namely] this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

John 15:12
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

Romans 13:8
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

I John 3:23
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name

II John 1:6
And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

I Cor. 13:13
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these [is] charity.

Because all our works for Christ must be "an energized work through the office of the Holy Spirit and His gifts," we can no longer feel puffed up and greater than others. Let me share my understanding of the difference between the "works of the law" and the "works of Grace." If a man is forced by law to pay child support to his child, it is a forced work energized by the law not out of a feeling of care and concern. If a man supports his child because of love and care, then it is energized by something within that man, not forced by laws and rules. It will be a natural desire in the man’s heart that causes him to support his offspring. So, being a Christian is a natural desire/result of being born-again and energized by the Holy Spirit. We will want to keep God’s commandments as set forth by Jesus and we will want to bring offspring into God’s Kingdom and love them as we would our own. It is law versus Grace. God made it so!!!

Will the End-Time church be full of people that look like these portrayals of a Scriptural Christian? No, they will not!!! If they were like those described in these Scriptures, then there would be no need for an End-Time event to usher out the New Testament/Age of Grace and bring in the "Covenant of the Everlasting Gospel." CHANGE WILL COME because the Church will not keep the simple commandments that Jesus gave; CHANGE WILL COME because the church will enter into the "falling away" that the Scriptures say would come to pass.

II Thessalonians 2:
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first…

In short, it was established by God that the Church would be visible to the world when the fruit of the Holy Spirit is operating it its midst. I don’t think that it can be said any better than Jesus put it:

John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

In an attempt to understand this WRAP from mosescats.com, I visited their web site. In so doing I found a site permeated with mythology, unfounded speculation and Scriptural errors.   Its greatest error is their supporting an incomplete salvation wherein the efforts of man needed to be added to the blood of Christ to finish the "finished" work that He did on the Cross. So, let me address this error.

The shedding of blood as a sacrificial atonement for sin is not a new concept. It actually began in the Garden of Eden when God slew the first animal to make a "clothing"—a cover for the human race.

Genesis 3:
17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I
commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the
days of thy life;
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou
art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

And this "sword" is no less than the sacrificial offering of the Son of God.

Matthew 10:
34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

The "sword" that Jesus spoke of in Matthew chapter 10 was first wielded by the first man born to the human race, Cain.

Gen. 4:8
And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

Why did Cain kill Able? The Apostle John gives us insight.

I John 3:12
Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

How was Cain’s works evil. (Note that John was not referring to lusts of the flesh, etc., but to his "works"!) If you’ll read in Genesis the account of Cain murdering his brother Able, you will find that the murder was associated with the religious offerings that the two men had brought to God.

Genesis 4:
1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.

9 And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?

10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.

11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;

12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15 And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

As we just read, God accepted Abel’s offering, but He rejected Cain’s. Why?

And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen? If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee [shall be] his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

There could have been two reasons that God refused Cain’s offering: because his heart was not right in the matter or because he brought the wrong offering. A careful reading of the Scriptures will show that Cain was guilty on both counts. It is easy to see that his heart was not right; for we are told that he was jealous of his brother, angry that his offering was rejected, and that he was in a giant pout. But not so plain, yet more importantly, we can conclude that he also brought an incorrect offering. With the Age of the Law, the Scriptures have a lot to say about the law and the offerings attached to it, including the blood offerings; for God carefully spelled out to Moses exactly how He wanted everything conducted. But the sacrificial ritual of offering the blood of an animal to God (which was completed by a burnt offering), accompanied with the prayers of repentance, had long been in existence before Moses was even born. As we’ve said, it was first observed in the Garden of Eden by the first family. Also, we have Scriptural evidence that it was observed by the believers before the flood during the Age of Conscience when Adam’s testimony was the "word of God." And we can also conclude from the Scriptures that the practice of giving offerings to God was observed during the period after the flood—which is known among theologians as the Age of Human Government—the period when Noah’s testimony was the "word of God."

Genesis 8:20
Then Noah built an altar to the LORD, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar.

From this verse we can deduce that God not only required the sacrificial offerings of animals from the man that He had created, but than he had also been specific as to which animals could be used in the offerings: i.e., the "clean animals." It is apparent that Noah learned of this during the age before the flood and that he brought it forward into the age after the flood. Then from the key figure of the next age, the Age of Promise (the age just before the Age of the Law) we see that the practice of burnt offerings was not only brought forward, but that God dealt specifically with the practice.

Genesis 22:
2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer
him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of...

8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together...

12 And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God,
seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and
Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son.

But back now to the offerings of Cain and Able. Why did God accept Abel’s offering and reject Cain’s? And why was Cain in an angry attitude that led to the murder of his brother? To me, it’s all tied up in the matter of the offerings. Abel was in obedience to God when he brought the "firstling" of his flock as an offering to God. (This matter of the "firstlings" being offered was brought forward in the "law" given to Moses.) However, Cain’s offering was not only in disobedience, but it represented the fruit of his own labor—a representative of self-willed worship. This explains his anger. His will and his feelings were all tied up in his offering, so he was angered an hurt at God’s rejection—not understanding that the offerings were pointing forward to the death of Christ on the Cross, the slaying of the perfect Lamb of God for the sin of the entire world. Cain wanted to be accepted because of his own efforts, and this God has never accepted of man; for He requires a "perfect" sacrifice, one without blemish. As Paul explained to the Romans, this requirement no man can satisfy.

Romans 3:
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

To preempt those who would say that such grace is nothing but a license to sin, Paul introduced this important passage in Romans with these words.

Romans 3:
3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

5 But if our unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who taketh vengeance? (I speak as a man)

6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?

7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;

Then in the next chapter of his epistle to the Romans, Paul summed up the truths that God had given him concerning God’s gift of eternal life by making this glorious statement about the way of faith.

Romans 4:
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

One cannot go very deep into our site before they see our concern for those who find themselves in bondage to their flesh because of the teachings of others who put differing forms of the law upon them in the name of Jesus who died to remove all bondage. A large segment of those who teach this go forth in the name of the Holy Ghost instead of the name of Jesus, and they follow a spirit that would put the Church of Christ back under the beggarly elements of the law—teaching that to keep ones "salvation," they have to keep certain elements of the law. Already, this error was in the churches in Paul’s day; and he had to address it in his letter to the Galatians.

So, what is the sword that Jesus brought to the earth? It is simply the Grace of God. How does this sword operate? Those who refuse to submit themselves to this grace are angry at those who do because they are convicted of their sins when they see the Spirit of Grace bringing forth His fruit in the submitted born-again believer. When this revelation came to me, it brought understanding of why those who would keep the believer under an insecure "you can only hope so" doctrine preach and teach with the voice of fight and the countenance of hate. Like Cain of old, they are angry at their brother without a cause! Keeping this in mind, let’s go back now and look again at some unusual wording in the passage dealing with Cain’s murder of his brother.

Genesis 4:
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Note verse seven and its prophetic language/connotations. "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him." If Cain had done well (correctly), who would have accepted him? Obviously, he would have been accepted by God. But who else would desire to have Cain? Again the answer is obvious, and it is the same devil that desired to have Peter (Luke 22:31). Nevertheless, Cain would still have the rule of Satan in that the devil could not force him into anything against his will. This still applies today, and no matter how often Geraldine said, "The devil made me do it." The truth is, the devil can make no one do anything without first getting the nod from the one being tempted. This is especially true concerning the acceptable sacrifice. When Jesus is preached/taught, the devil cannot keep anyone from accepting his Gift of eternal life. In fact, Jesus taught that if anyone would know and receive the truth of God, that God would see to it that he or she would know of it. Consequently, this is why all who stand at the final Great White Throne Judgment of man to hear the pronouncement of eternal damnation will be without excuse. In this life they had rejected the God’s gracious gift of eternal life and they had hated those who gratefully received it.

Let me sum up here with Paul’s declaration.

Romans 11:
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

MATHEW 5:16-21 AND "THE SABBATH VS. SUNDAY ISSUE" IS ALL ONE NEEDS TO SEE THAT JESUS HIMSELF IS REFUTING "YOUR MISCONCEPTIONS OF WORKS VS. FAITH".

THE FAITHFUL IN THE END , AS DESCRIBED BY ALL THE END TIME TEXTS, "DO NOT KEEP THE LAW FOR SALVATION" THEY KEEP IT "BECAUSE THEY ARE SAVED". THERE IS A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE HERE THAT OBVIOUSLY SEPARATES NEW COVENANT CHRISTIANS (SO CALLED) FROM "COVENANT CHRISTIANS".

YOU SEE (ACTUALLY CAN’T SEE) "THE COVENANT" IS STILL "THE SAME" (IT WAS THE ONE IN THE ARK OF THE COVENANT – THE TEN COMMANDMENTS – JESUS REFERRED TO IN THE ABOVE TEXT – HE WAS THE ROCK DON’T FORGET IN OLDEN ISRAEL TIMES) AND IT IS THIS SAME COVENANT, THAT THE NEW COVENANT CHRISTIAN (TO BE GRAFTED INTO ISRAEL) IS TO HAVE IN HIS HEART AND MIND (re HEBREWS 9-10) AND IT IS TO BE PLACED IN THE VERY SAME PLACE GOD WANTED TO PLACE IT IN OLDEN ISRAEL (re DEUT. 6) THEY ARE "HIS COVENANT PRECEPTS – A WAY OF LIFE COMPATIBLE WITH HIM – PERSONALITY – BEING LIKE HIM AND HIS SON ETC.

THEY (GODS PEOPLE OF ALL AGES) REALIZE THE LOVE RELATIONSHIP THAT COMES WITH A "COVENANT RELATIONSHIP" WITH GOD (IF YOU LOVE ME JESUS SAID "AS GOD"…re JOHN 14) AS AN EVERLASTING GOSPEL IN THIS LIGHT. "MAKING EVERLASTING COVENANT THEOLOGY" (MY COIN) SEEM LIKE MYTHS IN TODAY’S THEOLOGY.

I COULD GIVE MANY MANY TEXTS FOR EACH COMMENT BUT I THINK YOU KNOW THE ONES I’M REFERENCE TO. IF NOT THEY ARE EASY TO FIND THROUGHOUT "ALL" THE SCRIPTURES.

YOU (OBVIOUSLY FROM YOUR COMMENTS) AS MANY, HAVE A LOT INVESTED IN YOUR MINISTRY TO MUCH TO CHANGE.

RETURN COMMENTS STILL PENDING:

If Jesus ended the Law (Ten Commandments) on the cross as many so called theologians claim, then; its ok to kill, steal, lie, commit adultery or which "ones" did he eliminate ? Surely not the moral ones ? The simple answer comes from a "thus saith the Lord" making it clear not one commandment in the smallest way was removed and notice in this text when the commandments are done away with exposing the deception of today’s false doctrines. (re Math 5:17-18).

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

But listen, here’s the reason for this false doctrine; the "one" commandment the "new commandment theology" wants to eliminate by this is the 4^th commandment, the "7^th day Sabbath". The very one God asks us out of love to remember (in hopes of return love and worship from mankind). That’s what this whole controversy is all about friends, simple and not complicated. Remember Jesus said ! But Satan wants to complicate and confuse the issues thus Babylon, and modern (spiritual) Babylon

Jesus said in John 14:11-15

Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.

"if you love me keep my ("our commandments -Mine and Gods" in this textual context) commandments".

Its obvious then, by virtue of not remembering the 7^th day Sabbath of the law of love (Romans 13:8-10), the "new commandment theology" breaks its own law of love ‘only love’, and worse yet, they do this by accepting none other than a substitute day (as "Cain" now here is how this scenario fits) and this substitute Sabbath even has the pagan worship connection right in its name ‘sun’day (i.e. day of the sun).

Jesus is Lord of the S’abba’th day, the S’abba’th is the Lords day, don’t let the confusion factor fool you friends (Exodus 20:10), and He placed His name right in the middle of it "Abba".

"Worship" then, of the pagan or the Creator, "is what distinguishes the true Christian in the end" (re rev. 14:6-7,9,12-13,14).

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Maybe this is why the "new commandment religion" do not wish to be identifiable after all ? Like olden Israel, it is "not" keeping the law of God, "not" "keeping it" that leads to transgression and away from his holy covenant this is so obvious. I John 3:1-4 – gives us the bible definition of sin;

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

I John 2:1-4 is a startling view of where we stand in relationship with God;

My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

The answer to this controversy is so SO obvious.

While I am at it; let me challenge you (those of you who dare to do away with Gods law and think to establish one yourselves) I challenge you to find "one place" in the bible where God condemned man for keeping "one" of His Ten Commandments (moral law) ? You won’t ! But you will find, just the opposite though throughout the whole bible, and yet you still say this is myth ?

Even the wealthy young man who couldn’t give up his riches, who asked Jesus the timeless question yet turned away grieved, (re Mark 10:21) was "loved by Jesus" for having kept His (their) Fathers Ten Commandments (and really friends they are Jesus’ Commandments too ! Or we make Jesus and God disagree, and we know that isn’t true, so don’t start the new and old stuff or have you already forgotten Math. 5:17-21).

Read Romans 3:31, 6:14-16,7:25,8:4 and compare it to all the texts you posted. What law is Paul in reference to ? The Law of sacrifices ? God forbid, why no the law of the Ten Commandments, not circumcision and sacrifices etc., Paul is understood when he talks to the Ephesians and the Galatians etc. by those who know which law he is referencing, but is not understood by those who have been raised ignorant of the laws of God under "new testament" only theology, or the "new covenant (new commandment) theology obviously taking over the minds today by the comments I receive.

You see the problem today, and even back then is; (the honest bible student always gets this picture once explained); The unlearned wrestle with Paul’s writings concerning the laws of the bible (II Peter 3:15-16) because they don’t know the difference between the law "inside the ark" the everlasting covenant, the everlasting ten commandments in unchangeable stone) and the temporary ones, hanging on outside of the ark (on paper, only in effect till Jesus came and fulfilled its types and shadows (this is "the law" hung on the cross to use the modern term) and this is the law Paul mainly addresses because "the Jews were hanging on to it having rejected Jesus as the Messiah", in their minds it was still in force (I admit Peter didn’t help matters at times either but he did learn in the end).

But friends, God wouldn’t do away with morals, nor His Covenant, why Jesus’ death actually establishes it (fulfills it in example and completeness, not completed it because its principals were no longer needed or, as we surmise, since it caused the Jews to fail) no, the law is eternal and as with Jesus "to be internal" – they are outward expressions of internal principles, heart things etc. He died to exemplify and under the new covenant He wants to place them in us – in our personality – I like that !).

Think about this; As a just God, would He condemn people to death for breaking the 7^th day, he wouldn’t even break in dieing, and then alter that law as some say Paul does ? Why no ! Those who died under his command previously would raise up in protest and Satan would have just arguments. But friends we need not argue, about this change of the Sabbath for if you Look at my attachments under "what’s new" for the month of May you will see who it was that altered the day of worship, and please get this - it wasn’t Jesus nor any of the bible writers nor God (as the author of the Laws who says; "I change not" !

David said "Thy way oh God is in the sanctuary" and he also stated ‘I know you don’t want sacrifices and offerings but you want inward (sacrifice) circumcision of the heart and mind (forehead) and life (hands)’ (I’m paraphrasing). And listen now, this is where it starts getting deep; "it’s in the heart and mind" the beast of Rev. 14 wants too to place "his worship" and " his laws" until all the world is deceived as the scriptures predict.

"Love is", yes the bases (fulfilling) of the Law; "Love to God and love to mankind". God said these very statements ("new commandments" used as doctrines today) when he first gave the ten commandments (re deut.6:5, notice these statements of Jesus are really old testament quotes - center column bibles), Jesus is merely quoting that premise again in his time (Math. 22:36-40) consider the last verse especially;

Master, which is the great commandment in the law?

On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

I thought I would remind you for comparison;

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Why did He make this statement this way if they aren’t the new commandments ? Friends think about it and how the Jews were, why, It was like a new commandment back then, like a new principle to the people in his day, for the Jews had made the law of God of none effect (re Math. 15:3-9,18-19), and obviously it has happened again (as predicted) for today it seems like "myth" to those who do not have the faith of Jesus much less the Commandments of God.

As I’ve said, and its obvious, we’ve done the same thing today the Jews did, and we can’t even see it, and for that very reason soon the law will be taken down from even the church walls as it has from the schools, because the Sabbath is just to confrontational, just to cutting to the conscience and doctrines of modern Jews (Gentiles so called).

But friends, the Sabbath is a sign of not only the end time people, but the people of God throughout the ages "it shall be a sign that I am the God who Sanctifies you" (Exodus 31:13) (the law then is connected with sanctification).

Paul, setting the basic principles of the law before he goes on to the hard to understand parts said, to the mixed congregation in Rome, (Romans 2:13) if we hope to be justified "we" had better be doers of the law not just hearers (the law then is connected to justification).

Jesus said (rev. 22:12-15 ) as He comes with His glory (the law is connected with glorification "reward" then) as He comes to pass His reward on to the waiting saints, they are they who do what ? "who keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus" too. What else did He say ? He comes with "His" reward to give who ? "every man according as his work shall be", as if works of some kind are important.

Works in this context is obvious as he concludes his end time call; "blessed are they that do (not keep) His commandments that they may have right to the tree of life…" then He turns and points to the commandment breakers (Rev 22:14-15)…..

Jesus said to the young man He loved at first, we read about a minute ago, who ask him honestly "what must I do to be saved", what was Jesus’ response ? He didn’t give him a lecture on works vs. Faith or present a case, like I am responding to here, against the law, no He simply and in harmony with the whole bible said; "if ye want to enter into life keep the commandments" (Math. 19:17) and he quotes right out of the them.

My friends, there is obviously two doctrines abreast and rising to the surface in these end times, each using the word to make their case, and the most popular always wins because its what we are schooled in and Satan pulls a veil of deception over the truth so that its confusing and contrary to what we have been taught. But I ask, beg you, when, as you preview the times past; was the true religion ever the popular opinion of the day ? and how long did it take Israel to forget the God of the exodus and return to transgressions ?

There are a wealth of texts supporting the eternal Law of God, from before the fall of man (when the Sabbath was instituted – before sin mind you) to the last plea of Jesus in his last book Revelation, the evidence is there and clear to the real bible student, the problem is we find change impossible, for as the rich young man, we have a lot invested, sometimes PHDS and MD’s and reputations etc. and we walk away from truth as if we have blinders on and didn’t see it, or we have been deceived by the beast power.

Only the truth, as it is in Jesus, can set us free. He said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life" in that order !

Follow after me He says (as the ones do in Rev. 14), be like me He pleads, and friends if we want to, we will do His works and we will be distinguishable if only for the works sake. Now I ask you the big question, the punch line; "Who’s works are they really ? " Jesus wants to come and live in us to do the will of the Father. Who stops him then ? "OUR WORKS" !

The works mentioned in Rev. 22:12 are accepted because they are in reality Jesus’ works through us. Scripture can’t make it any more clear.

Can we find the last day Remnant People of Revelation 14 who keep the Commandments of God (a distinguishment) and have the Faith of Jesus (the distinguishment) ?

By Gods Grace (power to do and will) yes !……yes !……yes !

We must if we are to escape the overwhelming deceptions of the "end times"

May God open your eyes and hearts is my prayer as I have no other Ulterior motives…..